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Old 09-04-2003, 02:29 PM
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"John Grabowski" <jgrab@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Had the same experience, thought it was the after dinner Brandy(s)... ;->
Plus I can't see (enough) over that BIG panel, as beautiful as it is (that's
one you salivate for IRL)!
Thanks for sharing all your talent and effort Fr. Bill!!!!!
Cheers.
Don


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Old 09-04-2003, 02:52 PM
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donbutts wrote:


Aside from some cosmetic changes to the model itself, the crucial areas that
needed to be addressed were the following:

1) Aircraft flight dynamics. I had to slide the entries in TBL404 of the .air
file to the right to account for the loss of the wing_incidence and wing_AoA
parameters, and make extensive changes to the empty_weight_CG and station_load
entries to correct an debilitating COG instability.

2) Some gauges had to be rebuilt since XML gauge code no longer supports
dual-res textures the way it used to. I actually replaced those gauges with C
coded ones. Also, the loss of the TOGGLE_AFTERBURNER_X k:event in non-jet a/c
means that the late Bill Morad's "trick" to provide a sound interface for XML
gauges no longer will work. In fact, attempting to click on a guage with that
code will cause a sim crash.

3) Replacement of the "old" GPS with the new Garmin 500 GPS, and the elimination
of the "fake" KMD550 display.

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Old 09-04-2003, 03:03 PM
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John Grabowski wrote:


John, set the trim to about +1, flaps 1 and watch the a/c rotate and fly
itself off the rwny @ ~100 kts.

Make *very small* pitch changes with the trim control (add 1 to 2 clicks of
"negative" trim just after T/O.

Retract gear as soon as positive climb is established, wait a few seconds,
then retract flaps.

Continue adding 1 notch of negative trim to keep the a/c at a constant VS as
airspeed increases.

Do NOT "grip the stick" in your fist! Use your thumb and forefinger to
input flight correctons...

In level flight you should have about 2 to 3 degrees of negative trim (hover
the mouse over the trim control to see the actual setting in the popup box.

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Old 09-04-2003, 05:36 PM
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So far I am very impressed w/the looks of this plane but cannot comment on
its flyability.

It crashes FS9 evertime I try to click on the fuel tank (on/off) switch?

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Old 09-04-2003, 05:52 PM
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Ok I used autostart (ctrl-E) to get past the fuel selector issue and tried
to fly this plane. After 10 tries I crashed 10 times on the runway! It seems
to be behaving exactly as John Grabowski described, constant stalling and
unable to achieve level flight. I also tried using the take-off procedure
described by Bill Leaming and the result was a smooth takeoff (plane lifted
off by itself) followed by a severe climb then the subsequent stall while
trying to correct this and the inevitable plummet back to earth!

I am un-able to fly this plane? It's the only plane in FS9 that I am having
trouble with, and I have installed every plane available on Avsim.
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Old 09-04-2003, 06:54 PM
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Hey Bill,

I have the same problem, FS9 crashes when I use the fuel cutoff switch.

Stephen Morose

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Old 09-04-2003, 11:03 PM
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us
understanding of
that
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wing_AoA
station_load
with C
a/c
XML
that
elimination

I think I can get me head around most of it Fr Bill. I havn't loaded the
A/C yet but wonder if I'll have the probs experienced below?? With you at
the helm I'm sure it will all be sorted. Yeah, ..so thanks for that and also
for all that clever production work, free, for our benefit.

Don B.


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Old 09-04-2003, 11:55 PM
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donbutts wrote:


Indeed. Forgot to add the repaints are really nice.



John

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Old 09-05-2003, 02:53 AM
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Not bad - for a gmax plane, that is..


Inspector Poly.

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Old 09-05-2003, 05:07 AM
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Don Parker wrote:


Don, in case you didn't read the docs <cough, cough!>, that honking BIG panel is
deliberately designed to be "slid down" to improve your forward view!

Just grab any blank spot on the panel, and move it down until the "3d view"
stops. IOW, put the top of the panel so that it *just* covers the "black" at
the bottom of the 3d outside view...

Yes, the center console is still tough to see around, but it makes a *dandy* aid
for lining up the rwny! Simply make the rwny parallel to the left side of the
center console for a perfect alignment. Obviously, flying a "right pattern" is
a bit more problematic, but in that case, simply jump in the "right seat" by
switching to the P2 panel and sliding it downwards as well.

Bill
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