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Old 09-06-2003, 11:06 PM
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Off topic I know, but I have recently been given a pasting by the Uber
fuhrer of another NG for top posting. I wonder why this is considered so
bad?

The one thing I like about this NG is that practically everyone top posts.
It is so much easier to read!!

I find this part of the so-called best netiquette moronic.
You often have to scroll down each post to read what is at the bottom -
what a pain? Isn't it about time that top posting became the standard?
This is not a troll really, I mean it...


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Old 09-06-2003, 11:14 PM
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I agree (and do so by top posting). If you start reading the first post
and move down through the thread then the easiest way to read all replies
without scrolling is if everyone top posted.

I assume some would argue that you could simply read the last message in a
thread (that is "properly" bottom posted) from top to bottom and it reads
like a story.

Since I jump around from message to message at times I prefer a top posting
standard.

Some thought the world was flat. If we can change that we can certainly
change this bottom posting standard.

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Old 09-06-2003, 11:19 PM
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I also agree.
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Old 09-06-2003, 11:19 PM
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And Amen I say to all that. I always prefer top posting myself, but got
chewed a few times for it.
Couldn't figure why people bottom post anyway. Never made sense to me.

John Slevin.





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Old 09-06-2003, 11:51 PM
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How about simultaneous top and bottom posting?
Keep everyone happy that way?
;-)

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How about simultaneous top and bottom posting?
Keep everyone happy that way?
;-)

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Old 09-07-2003, 12:02 AM
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On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 23:19:16 +0100, Ripa wrote:

Read on, please . . .
Top posting does nothing for the "flow" of a reply, and it can cause
much confusion relative who says what to whom and when and why.

It is polite to reply to a comment, letting the original poster's
comments rest in the eyes of the reader before the comment.


You are a Usenet minority.
It's not about "bottom posting," it's about polite respect for the
words of the person you reply to.

You, and your preference for "top posting" reveal an amateurish
approach to Usenet dialog, I solemnly assure you.

I will not <Snip> the comments below just so you can see how confusing
this all becomes when Usenet newbies think they have a better idea . .
..

And believe me, those who have urged organization and standards here
are those who have preserved this medium for you to (abuse?) through
the years you were learning what it was about.

Flame away if you must but before you do, a little research will
demonstrate "top-posting" is an almost universally frowned-upon way to
participate in usenet.

Do we have Bill Gates and Outlook to thank for all of this HTML in
e-mail? Do we have Bill Gates and Outlook's penchant for answering
e-mail with the original post beneath the new words for this?

Is there anything wrong with interspersing replies among the comments?

No, there is nothing wrong with the latter, unless the author has no
control over his newsreader.

Go ahead and top-post. What it says about your experience is enough
for most--except others of like sophomoric bent.

Of course I shouldn't expect this "new breed" of Outlook-enabled
Usenet-junkies to know the ropes, but it's a real pain to see how
quick they are to say everyone *ELSE,* who has been communicating
through these methods for years is wrong.

Predictably juvenile. Predictably sophomoric. Predictably
anti-learning and know-everything.

Top-posting is wrong. Insulting. Revealing.

Go for it. ;-)


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Old 09-07-2003, 12:23 AM
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I defend your right to prefer top posting of course, but not to gratuitously
call me a newbie on the newsnet without enquiring first. At 69 years of age,
I have probably been posting on NGs as long as most people. Well, for ten
years at least. I did not sign up for this so called standard, and I don't
agree with it.

The problem with bottom posting is that it is logical and therefore nothing
to do with how humans work or think. (It is logical but not psycho-logical.)
Nothing about this relatively new technology should be carved in stone, and
I am certain that I am not in the minority especially in this NG.

It is time that the self elected usenet gurus had a re-think.



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Old 09-07-2003, 12:24 AM
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I *think* it's to do with the way people have their newsreaders set and the
different newsreaders that people use (a subject loaded with "old-hand"
snobbery).

Certainly using the much-lambasted Outlook Express with the messages
threaded I find top-posting a more natural way to read posts - Remembering
the the previous post when reading the new stuff is not that difficult!

OTOH - to avoid being clobbered by the uber fuhrers in other NG's I do suit
the top/bottom style to the NG.

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Old 09-07-2003, 12:31 AM
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What is top (bottom) posting?


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Old 09-07-2003, 12:39 AM
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On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 23:23:44 +0000 (UTC), Quilljar wrote:


Excuse me sir? Where did I say I *preferred* top-posting?


This is not a contest of longevity although I'd win if it were. ;-)

I have no idea which usenet groups you have been posting to and which
see "Top-posting" as any sort of acceptable "norm."


Tell me my argumentative friend. Can you do what I do here in my reply
to you by "Top-posting?"


You are completely wrong. Top-posts are illogical, rude and not at all
psycho-logical.

It is not carved in stone, it has become a standard by osmosis and
fairness among those who choose to carry on dialog without spewing
rude "opinion" atop and superior to the remarks being commented upon.

Excuse me? It's time the Usenet newbies, regardless of age or
perceived Usenet "experience" sat down and took some notes.
Or is respect for experience and learning something no-one cares about
any more?

And look at this mess below:

You caused it, my elder yet newbie friend. I'll leave it but should
actually delete it with something that might be new to you, called a
"<Snip>"

Onward through the fog my misguided friend.

Tell me, do you sent HTML mail too? ;-)

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