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Old 09-13-2003, 05:03 PM
Tina Fisher
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Default FS9 : Textures still weird !!!

I am still getting strange texture behavior ...

see http://www.geocities.com/tini_fisher/honolulu.jpg

shows on almost all buildings, depending on your position ...

note that the weird textures on the buildings in the background are
also changing shapes when flying or slewing, the lines on the
buildings are moving from right to left around like reflections in a
mirror

same happens to building lights when flying at night

is that normal ? please say no !

settings : 1280 x 1024 (max for my tft), all details maxed in fs9, aa
to app, aif 4x, nvidia 45.23

tia for any hints !

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PS: not too much vodka !
PPS: the extra honolulu scenery can be found at avsim !
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Old 09-13-2003, 05:31 PM
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"Tina Fisher" <tini_fisher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I think it's an effect called Moire Patterns. Tweaking your texture
settings should minimise/eliminate it.


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Old 09-13-2003, 05:51 PM
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Might be shadow effects on the buildings??

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Old 09-13-2003, 05:53 PM
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Hey!! Like ya house too! Which one do you live in? The one with penthouse on
the top floor with your own bar and swimming pool?

Watch out for the silent "p" in swimming pool too! ;-)

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Old 09-13-2003, 05:57 PM
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Tina Fisher wrote:

Moire patterns, try adjusting the texture settings.


Hey, is the sea really meant to be that colour??

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Old 09-13-2003, 06:50 PM
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Before the Sun had fallen far from the moon out of the East there came
a great "paul s" <nospam@nospam.forme.invalid> flying, and bore
tidings beyond hope from the Lords of the West, crying:



thanks to all for the moire hint, BUT : how do I fix that ? I tried
everything, reducing mips removed the moirč effect but the screen
looks terrible ...

btw : http://www.geocities.com/tini_fisher/honolulu2.jpg shows my
ocean at sunset ...

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Old 09-13-2003, 06:52 PM
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Tina Fisher wrote:


If I tweek up the MIP >5 it gets bad on my Radeon 9800. Even shows just a
bit sometimes on 5, but only on large distant building with the fine
textured lines, and goes away when I get close. Call morie' effect, and
seen quite a lot on monitors and TV when someone wears a certain coat or tie
with a line or checked pattern...
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Before the Sun had fallen far from the moon out of the East there came
a great "Don Parker" <tazman@cox-internet.spam.com> flying, and bore
tidings beyond hope from the Lords of the West, crying:


do you see a degradation in image quality from 8 to 5 mip ?

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Old 09-13-2003, 07:13 PM
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ok, instead of asking so many questions, here is some comparison I
made :

http://www.geocities.com/tini_fisher/mip4.jpg

(4 MIP, moire completely gone - trees still flicker however when
moving )

http://www.geocities.com/tini_fisher/mip8.jpg

(8 MIP, tons of moire patterns ...)



note that with 5 MIP (no screenshot), the moire pattern is still there
....


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Old 09-13-2003, 07:49 PM
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Tina Fisher wrote:

I really don't see a big difference in detail after ~6, but then the morie'
starts getting bothersome and a little more glitter/shimmer, so I've settled
on 5. Even then some big buildings get that swirl effect, but clears up the
closer I get. I've noticed this to some degree on about every FS version
I've had, and this can also vary somewhat with the particular brand monitor
you have and the resolution you're using (I found 1600x1200 the best for me,
on a 19" Sony CRT) - you may being seeing it better or worse than someone
with similar settings, but different hardware (one of my sidelines over the
years was repairing monitors). Until maybe ATI does some more tweeking (IF
it's even their 'fault'), I'm just trying to ignore the little bit I have...
(:->))

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