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Old 03-07-2004, 11:38 AM
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I am trying to take off from EGNX and then enter the pattern and land with
ILS. I tune the radio to the frequency, in my case for EGNX is 109.35
however as soon as I take off I can only ever see the vertical needle moving
to say whether I am too far left or right. the horizontal needle for my
glide slope does nothing, it just sits in the middle of the dial no matter
what height I am at.

What am I doing wrong, have I missed a setting somewhere? I can only find
the one frequency to adjust on nav1 radio.

Help!


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Old 03-07-2004, 12:49 PM
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From what I can tell the ILS on both ends has a GS so you should be picking
it up. Usually the GS will turn off abeam the station and become active
again when you pass the threshold on the downwind leg.


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Old 03-07-2004, 12:52 PM
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Mark Cunnington wrote:


What aircraft are you flying? A few thoughts:

After you set the ILS frequency into the NAV1 radio, are you activating
the frequency by swapping it into the active position?

Are you switching the NAV/GPS switch on the panel to the NAV position?

Are you absolutely sure that EGNX has an ILS approach, rather than a
localizer-only approach? A localizer-only approach is a fairly common
approach that only provides runway centerline guidance, not glideslope
guidance, and would result in movement of the vertical CDI needle.

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Old 03-07-2004, 01:44 PM
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I forgot to mention to make sure you use NAV1 radio and it is active. NAV2
will not show a GS.

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Old 03-07-2004, 04:53 PM
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I See what you mean, I just tried Heathrow and the ILS works fine, just
seems strange that fs9 says that any airport has ILS when it only has
direction !

Thanks for the input though :-)


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Old 03-07-2004, 07:22 PM
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Well ... I kinda have the same problem ! I am doing a worl tour and in the
US and Canada I had no problems with ILS slope indicators. Once ib Japan,
altough it shows heaving ILS on my map, it only picks up direction, not
slope. This is VERY strange ! I mostly have to manually land without ussing
approach on ILS.

Is this maybe because I'm using Mesh Sceneries ?

As an example ! Try this Japanese airport. RJNT Runway 20.

I'll try it without mesh

Frank


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Old 03-07-2004, 07:32 PM
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I just looked at the ILS on my map for that airports ... It looks totally
positioned wrong ...

Anyone knows if there are ILS fixing scripts or something like that ?

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Old 03-07-2004, 08:11 PM
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I just used AFCAD221 to check that airport. There is NO ILS at that
airport--only LOC/DME approach (non precision--no GS). Have you checked real
world approach plates to see if that is correct?? Just because the map in FS
has a green feather, does NOT mean an ILS is there. Could be just showing
the presence
of the localizer.

If no GS, then you have to use the approach plate to determine your
appropriate altitude at various points along the localizer. Non precision
approach, altitude control is your responsibility, fly a manual approach.
Not at all uncommon.

As far as the LOC lineup, it appears from the info provided by AFCAD that
the LOC and runway mag headings are the same (201--True heading 193.55 with
mag var 7W). Which means the localizer final approach course would bring you
right down the runway center line.

What is it you would fix???

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Old 03-07-2004, 10:27 PM
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It's not FS9's fault - that's real life.
Even without a glideslope, just having a localizer, is considered an
ILS approach. And it's well documented on the approach charts.

But that's not the case with EGNX since it has a glideslope on both
approaches.

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Old 03-07-2004, 10:47 PM
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Tom Orle wrote:


Actually, that is not correct, at least in the US. A localizer without
a glideslope is known as a localizer approach.

In order to be an ILS, there needs to be a localizer, glideslope, marker
beacons and/or DME, and runway visual information, such as approach
lighting, runway edge lighting, threshold lighting, etc.

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